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True or False?

Posted on | July 22, 2009 | 24 Comments

“I can’t speak my mind. I am in Advertising.”

Shamelessly stolen from a fellow Tweeter. Opinions invited.

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  • http://www.cockybox.com cockybox

    True :) Here's my story.At first people know nothing and have no idea what they want.And once we give them an amazing concept they start playing smart ass.Damn those retards.Cheers to advertising.

  • http://www.cockybox.com Harprabhjot Paul Singh

    True :)

    Here's my story.

    At first people know nothing and have no idea what they want.

    And once we give them an amazing concept they start playing smart ass.

    Damn those retards.

    Cheers to advertising.

  • http://twitter.com/sub_maya_hai sub_maya_hai

    There is a nuance of a difference – You can speak your mind (In fact, you are encouraged to!). But then, nobody gives a damn.

  • http://twitter.com/sub_maya_hai sub_maya_hai

    There is a nuance of a difference – You can speak your mind (In fact, you are encouraged to!). But then, nobody gives a damn.

  • http://twitter.com/kajal81 Kaj

    ha ha ha ha…. False I will speak my mind till we're in danger of pi$$ing off corporate America, and then I'll play nice to tone it down… (this may be why I keep having to leave countries, my 4th market in a 10 year career)

  • http://twitter.com/kajal81 Kaj

    ha ha ha ha…. False

    I will speak my mind till we're in danger of pi$$ing off corporate America, and then I'll play nice to tone it down…

    (this may be why I keep having to leave countries, my 4th market in a 10 year career)

  • vinod407

    I can't speak the truth, as I'm in Sales

  • vinod407

    I can't speak the truth, as I'm in Sales

  • http://www.lbhat.com/ bhatnaturally

    I can speak my mind. Trouble is, which one?:)

  • http://www.lbhat.com bhatnaturally

    I can speak my mind. Trouble is, which one?:)

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    Thanks folks – looks like very few want to comment on this one :-) Vinod – that was funny and honest :-) Kajal – at least you get to travel this way :-)

  • Rahul Jauhari

    Thanks folks – looks like very few want to comment on this one :-)
    Vinod – that was funny and honest :-)
    Kajal – at least you get to travel this way :-)

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    LinkedIn, as usual, has thrown up some really interesting answers :-)

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    LinkedIn, as usual, has thrown up some really interesting answers :-)

  • http://twitter.com/naked2nirvana Naked2Nirvana

    Hey Rahul, its interesting, I have known us to always speak our brilliant minds out, in fact they have to pay us to shut the f!@# up, – naked2nirvana.com thought – this post, is brilliant. It touches our raw nerve…

  • http://twitter.com/naked2nirvana Naked2Nirvana

    Hey Rahul, its interesting, I have known us to always speak our brilliant minds out, in fact they have to pay us to shut the f!@# up, – naked2nirvana.com thought – this post, is brilliant. It touches our raw nerve…

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    :-D

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    :-D

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    Responses from Linked In:Heidi TitchenalI agree. Whatever the product or service, you'd better love it. Jasper SevillaI would disagree. It would depend on the person. Lazaros DimitriadisDisagree, Advertising is all about satisfying the customer and your target group, so helping to improve or diversify is key. People hire people that speak their minds or they would use robots! Knowing when to speak your mind and when NOT is wisdom, there is a right time for everything. Edward HartDisagree. There is no value whatsoever in merely saying what people want to hear. It isn't good for you or the client. Susan Shwartz PhDDepends on the sort of advertising your company wants and you write. I don't think I'd be happy in this environment. Are you? Indira ChaudhryYou can…and cannot….depends on the camouflage of the product and the honesty of the ethics involved… Bruno RoquesHi Rahul, You must believe in what you advertise, otherwise you will not be convincing. Once done, you can speak your mind, it's just additional bonus to the initial & official campaign. If you're not a believer, you should better move toward something that you trust more being great product or service (and don't speak your mind, for that you should give respect to those who have a different opinion, uneless nobody believe in the stuff, in which case, just drop it by paying minimum advertising effort and let it die naturally). My 2 cents, Bruno. p.s. : inspiring link here below … More on product design than advertising, but by no mean poor design can be advertised properly ! “Never leave well enough alone”, by Raymond Loewy. Have fun reading and take care ! Links:• http://books.google.fr/books?id=ZFdl0gC5P50C&pg…;… Jeff MasilunDisagree… in Advertising you need to speak your mind. Please are paying you for you services, your professional and your knowledge. Links:• http://www.gomindstorm.com Shankar BaruaYup Rahul. You have to speak the client's mind. Keep well ~ Shankar Shabeena AhmedDisagree, if you are talking to the client while brainstorming. Agree if you've stated your point-of-view to the client, and he still insists the communication reads something else. Dave MasonIf you or your advertising company is approached to develop ads for a product or service that you have moral or ethical problems with , you most certainly can say something. You have a moral obligation to do so. You can also plan on not getting the job ( And the pay ). The choice is yours. Erica FriedmanIn a sense, advertising is like acting. One has to find the key aspects of a product or service or whatever and communicate those qualities to the audience. The best actors become there characters, the best marketers love their products. Cheers, Erica Friedman Thomas SebastianiYou may always speak your mind, that is the idea this country was founded upon….the problem is, do you want to really deal with the consequences? A.M.Mohamed IbrahimI disagree, if you are a creative then your ultimate job is to think creative with message theme and if you are account executive, you have to speak your mind to meet up with your dead lines and client requirements. Eddie LeonardAn ad agency senior exec during a wrap party moment told me (representing the client side at the time), “we always have 3 sets of ideas ready…the first group is what the creative team wants to do….the second is what the client is likely to approve….and the third is what is the right thing to do for consumer acceptance….then the mind battle begins.” Vanessa JohnsonIt depends on whom you are speaking to. If you're talking to your client it's likely they want your unabashed honesty (e.g. giving truthful answers to the questions of is this a good typeface for our logo? how does this copy read?). If you're speaking to the target market – of course not. Your opinion of the product or service doesn't matter; the public perception of that opinion does matter. Your job is to convey the message, product, or service of your client to his or her target market in the most favorable of lights. You don't typically advertise shortfalls or bugs in a word processing software. You don't advertise the fact that a pair of jeans is made so cheaply that the seams will tear after two wash cycles. You don't generally highlight that the “free trial” subscription for an online credit report lasts only 3 days and that a person's credit card will be charged 39.99 if they don't cancel within that specified period. Sure, all of this information is available, if the consumer looks hard enough, but it isn't something that a client would want you to advertise. Instead, you get out the smiley-faced paintbrush, and portray the product or service in a way that is going to encourage a sale. Leave the moral dilemmas to the sales representatives who get the questions of “What do you think about X product? Would you buy it?” I do agree with many who have stated its far easier to endorse a product that you support than a product that you know is shoddy. But I also think that working in an advertising capacity rather than as an actual sales representative alleviates some of that discomfort between overselling and underdelivering. Razvan StoicaTruth is overrated. I'm speaking about truth in advertising of course, of course. Sahar AndradeRahul: I disagree When it comes to promoting a product or service either by marketing campaigns or by advertising if I don’t put myself totally in that frame of mind that I like it or it is of great benefit or believe in it, whatever results will just be fake and will not catch the audience attention, as people can see through promotions that are not genuine productions and anything you do will not be genuine unless you actually believe it and your mind take sit in 100% If I am doing advertising or marketing campaign for a product or services that I can't sell the idea or the plan to the product's/ services' owners it will never sell to the audience, I will have to go back to the drawing board and think about it differently So unless I am speaking my mind I will not do it, clients hire me or my company because they know we drive results if they could have done it themselves they would have, so they come to me/ my company because they know we are professionals and we deliver My 2 cents Sahar Andrade Wallace JacksonAgree to Disagree, that is the inherent nature of this question. Walls. Links:• http://www.mindtaffy.comhttp://www.WOWsignage.comhttp://www.3D4PDF.com Allard van WielinkA mind is what you give, sold it, lost it! Lucinda DeVriesDepends on who you are speaking to. You can disagree but watch who you tell your opinion to.

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    Responses from Linked In:

    Heidi Titchenal

    I agree. Whatever the product or service, you'd better love it.

    Jasper Sevilla

    I would disagree. It would depend on the person.

    Lazaros Dimitriadis

    Disagree,
    Advertising is all about satisfying the customer and your target group, so helping to improve or diversify is key. People hire people that speak their minds or they would use robots! Knowing when to speak your mind and when NOT is wisdom, there is a right time for everything.

    Edward Hart

    Disagree. There is no value whatsoever in merely saying what people want to hear. It isn't good for you or the client.

    Susan Shwartz PhD

    Depends on the sort of advertising your company wants and you write. I don't think I'd be happy in this environment. Are you?

    Indira Chaudhry

    You can…and cannot….depends on the camouflage of the product and the honesty of the ethics involved…

    Bruno Roques

    Hi Rahul,

    You must believe in what you advertise, otherwise you will not be convincing.

    Once done, you can speak your mind, it's just additional bonus to the initial & official campaign.

    If you're not a believer, you should better move toward something that you trust more being great product or service (and don't speak your mind, for that you should give respect to those who have a different opinion, uneless nobody believe in the stuff, in which case, just drop it by paying minimum advertising effort and let it die naturally).

    My 2 cents,
    Bruno.
    p.s. : inspiring link here below … More on product design than advertising, but by no mean poor design can be advertised properly ! “Never leave well enough alone”, by Raymond Loewy. Have fun reading and take care !
    Links:
    http://books.google.fr/books?id=ZFdl0gC5P50C&pg…

    Jeff Masilun

    Disagree… in Advertising you need to speak your mind. Please are paying you for you services, your professional and your knowledge.
    Links:
    http://www.gomindstorm.com

    Shankar Barua

    Yup Rahul.

    You have to speak the client's mind.

    Keep well ~ Shankar

    Shabeena Ahmed

    Disagree, if you are talking to the client while brainstorming.
    Agree if you've stated your point-of-view to the client, and he still insists the communication reads something else.

    Dave Mason

    If you or your advertising company is approached to develop ads for a product or service that you have moral or ethical problems with , you most certainly can say something. You have a moral obligation to do so.

    You can also plan on not getting the job ( And the pay ).

    The choice is yours.

    Erica Friedman

    In a sense, advertising is like acting. One has to find the key aspects of a product or service or whatever and communicate those qualities to the audience. The best actors become there characters, the best marketers love their products.

    Cheers,

    Erica Friedman

    Thomas Sebastiani

    You may always speak your mind, that is the idea this country was founded upon….the problem is, do you want to really deal with the consequences?

    A.M.Mohamed Ibrahim

    I disagree, if you are a creative then your ultimate job is to think creative with message theme and if you are account executive, you have to speak your mind to meet up with your dead lines and client requirements.

    Eddie Leonard

    An ad agency senior exec during a wrap party moment told me (representing the client side at the time), “we always have 3 sets of ideas ready…the first group is what the creative team wants to do….the second is what the client is likely to approve….and the third is what is the right thing to do for consumer acceptance….then the mind battle begins.”
    Vanessa Johnson

    It depends on whom you are speaking to.

    If you're talking to your client it's likely they want your unabashed honesty (e.g. giving truthful answers to the questions of is this a good typeface for our logo? how does this copy read?).

    If you're speaking to the target market – of course not. Your opinion of the product or service doesn't matter; the public perception of that opinion does matter. Your job is to convey the message, product, or service of your client to his or her target market in the most favorable of lights.

    You don't typically advertise shortfalls or bugs in a word processing software. You don't advertise the fact that a pair of jeans is made so cheaply that the seams will tear after two wash cycles. You don't generally highlight that the “free trial” subscription for an online credit report lasts only 3 days and that a person's credit card will be charged 39.99 if they don't cancel within that specified period. Sure, all of this information is available, if the consumer looks hard enough, but it isn't something that a client would want you to advertise.

    Instead, you get out the smiley-faced paintbrush, and portray the product or service in a way that is going to encourage a sale. Leave the moral dilemmas to the sales representatives who get the questions of “What do you think about X product? Would you buy it?”

    I do agree with many who have stated its far easier to endorse a product that you support than a product that you know is shoddy. But I also think that working in an advertising capacity rather than as an actual sales representative alleviates some of that discomfort between overselling and underdelivering.

    Razvan Stoica

    Truth is overrated.
    I'm speaking about truth in advertising of course, of course.

    Sahar Andrade

    Rahul:
    I disagree
    When it comes to promoting a product or service either by marketing campaigns or by advertising if I don’t put myself totally in that frame of mind that I like it or it is of great benefit or believe in it, whatever results will just be fake and will not catch the audience attention, as people can see through promotions that are not genuine productions and anything you do will not be genuine unless you actually believe it and your mind take sit in 100%
    If I am doing advertising or marketing campaign for a product or services that I can't sell the idea or the plan to the product's/ services' owners it will never sell to the audience, I will have to go back to the drawing board and think about it differently
    So unless I am speaking my mind I will not do it, clients hire me or my company because they know we drive results if they could have done it themselves they would have, so they come to me/ my company because they know we are professionals and we deliver
    My 2 cents
    Sahar Andrade

    Wallace Jackson

    Agree to Disagree, that is the inherent nature of this question. Walls.
    Links:
    http://www.mindtaffy.com
    http://www.WOWsignage.com
    http://www.3D4PDF.com
    Allard van Wielink

    A mind is what you give, sold it, lost it!

    Lucinda DeVries

    Depends on who you are speaking to. You can disagree but watch who you tell your opinion to.

  • http://blinkjet.wordpress.com/ Devina

    Hahahahhahahaha…..awesome!!!!! :D

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    :-)

  • http://rahuljauhari.com/ Rahul Jauhari

    :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/ROHAAN1987 Rohaan Jadhav

    We cant speak in advertising bcz the fact is to show sumthing creative things… More over Advertising is too show, tht things happen with creativity.